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Inventing the University by David Bartholomae

david bartholomae inventing the university

I find it easier to have the same general structure to all my papers and it seems to have worked well for me so far. For whom does this information even concern? For if technical communication is broadly construed as the anthropology of the workplace, then we must conduct research in this area in order to improve the workplace ethos of the teacher i. To write in the appropriate discourse, a writer must learn to share the same goals as their readers, or have their readers in mind as they write. The one thing I was not prepared for was the time limit. Bartholomae believes that there are two types of basic writers, the ones that are relatively free of sentence level errors and the ones that write with such authority and pose. The university, however, is the place where 'common' wisdom is only of negative value; it is something to work against. The problem in asking students to take on this role privilege and authority when writing to a professor is that you are asking them to deny the situation in the classroom where the teacher has all the power and the student has very little.

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Week 1

david bartholomae inventing the university

In the reading Bartholomae primarily talked about students writing for their teachers. Students will become literary critics—or engineers, or psychologists, or dancers, or public relations experts—as the result of many courses, many experiences, and many teachers. When the student is sharing their work with an audience they take on the role of teacher and the teacher takes on the role of student. When the writer has a purpose to write, the outcome turns out to be way better, everything needs a purpose. Students need to think of themselves as insiders with a privilege to write. That is, students may need to simply mimic academic discourse before they are prepared to immerse themselves in it, enacting and nuancing their own discourse 415. We discuss in depth examples and abuses of ethos, logos, and pathos, but many of them struggle tremendously.

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“Inventing the University”

david bartholomae inventing the university

What does he mean by that? I do know that I have to take different things into consideration. They cannot sit through lectures and read textbooks and, as a consequence, write as sociologists or write literary criticism. The sample written about wearing white shoes was not as educated but yet it was pretty much error free. In academic writing, the student must be bold enough to secure the right to speak as the authority figure on the topic. Peter Elbow writes about how writing an essay or paper is different than a conversation.

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Rehtorical Analysis

david bartholomae inventing the university

He noted that while they both show discourse on the range of topics, they both may not have understood the audience as well as they should have. He states that students must speak in a language that their prescribed readers will understand. He blames this on teachers and curriculum designers who say writing is a mode of learning but make the students use it as a tool. Bartholomae argues that students entering the university—especially those in remedial writing courses—are faced with the challenge of writing in a voice they are not experienced with: the voice of an academic. Although he admits that academic discourse can be mysterious even to academics, he still proposes some practical ideas for teaching it. Petrosky Boston: Bedford Books, 2003. As evidenced in Writing Without Teachers, Elbow's scholarship suggests that writing belongs to the writer from the beginning, arguing that students learn by writing without teachers — citing diaries, letters, personal narratives, and poems as examples of his theory p.


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Rehtorical Analysis

david bartholomae inventing the university

First, students learn to write within the specific discourse communities as though they were easily and comfortably one with their audience. First, he suggests teaching students commonplace terms and conventions of academic discourse. Bartholomae states that writers who do this are not necessarily bad writers, but basic writers. True, our students are seldom prepared to be fully functional, accomplished literary critics, particularly in a first year writing course. The second is the conclusion essay is written by a basic writer.

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English 1312: the Summary

david bartholomae inventing the university

He says that they also write for a real audience. Just to read, highlight, comprehend, and take notes on the essay took two solid hours. In his lectures, he gave us a new language in which to say the same things that the readings said. Bartholomae uses this as another example of a writer breaking the role of an equal and changing to an authority figure. He also cites other authors and strengthens his points by taking into consideration their opinions. On the other hand, had he spoke meekly, the assertion of the importance of this piece may have been loss. The meaning of this phrase comes from the idea that every freshman college student faces a new community in which the student has to adapt to new ideas, language, and ways of doing.


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Mere Rhetoric: Inventing the University

david bartholomae inventing the university

Some will be marked by courses, and in an ideal curriculum the preliminary courses would be writing courses, whether housed in an English department or not. A major difference between an expert writer and a beginning writer is the detection of the audience. Students cannot just assume that their reader has previous knowledge of what is being written about just because their reader may be a professor. They must be either equal to or more powerful than those they would address. Both of the writings are trying to show individuals different opinions from different people. If you want to get more from your writings then you need to take your paper to other audiences.

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UNDERSTANDING BARTHOLOMAE’S “INVENTING THE UNIVERSITY” by Bo Yu on Prezi

david bartholomae inventing the university

What he meant by this was for the student to try writing as a literary critic one day and an experimental psychologist the next to widen their view and perspective. However, this commonplace is not true, according to Bartholomae. David takes a whole different approach with his work. If every student wrote in a way that makes their work pretty much the same then there is no point in even writing. So this piece of writing is obviously written for teachers to read. However, this is difficult, and Bartholomae notes that the characteristic slip of the basic writer is when they move away from this authoritative voice of someone whose claims are deeply rooted in scholarship and analysis and into a more comfortable role of someone offering a lesson or advice 405.

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